Global Warming/A New Religion-Should Evangelists Buy Into This ????
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Global Warming/A New Religion-Should Evangelists Buy Into This ????
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| I don't believe in global warming theory |
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| Good move/Multiple Choice |
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| Surprised by Christian move |
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| Not sue of this coalition |
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| Something has to be done |
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| Maybe Al Gore isn't a nut |
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| Other/ Explain |
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Global Warming/A New Religion-Should Evangelists Buy In... - 1/15/2007 3:55:51 PM
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Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat global warming
BOSTON --Leading scientists and evangelical Christian leaders have agreed to put aside passionate differences over the origin of life and work together to curb alarming levels of global warming that threaten the survival of life on Earth.
Representatives met recently in Georgia and agreed on the need for urgent action to drive down growing environmental degradation. Details on the talks will be unveiled in Washington on Wednesday, according to a joint statement.
"Whether God created the Earth in a millisecond or whether it evolved over billions of years, the issue we agree on is that it needs to be cared for today," said Rich Cizik, vice president of government relations for the National Association of Evangelicals, which represents 45,000 churches.
Eric Chivian, director of the Center for Health and the Global Environment at Harvard Medical School agreed, saying, "scientists and evangelicals have discovered that we share a deeply felt common concern and sense of urgency about threats to life on Earth, and that we must speak with one voice to protect it."---More on above link
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 4:00:04 PM
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I think that churches should be no more involved with protecting the environment than we are in politics. Christians however should seek to encourage responsibility. But I am not convinced that this is a big change.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 4:35:53 PM
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 5:33:50 PM
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Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat global warming
Boofheads!
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 8:09:46 PM
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I was conflicted netween a couple of the choices so I took the road less traveled and voted "Other/Explain". Part of my rationale is that I am unsure as to whether or not the phenom known as global warming actually exists; if I were to take the word of scientists that think the world is billions of years old then why bother getting upset about it since the world has gone through many, many of theses heatup/cool down cycles?
Then there's the fact that there are a number of scientific evidences that indicate the Earth is not undergoing any such cataclysmic event! Yeah Yeah Yeah I know no one gives them any credibility because they disagree with the status quo! BIG DEAL!!! No one gave Galileo, Keppler, Newton or any number of other scientists any credibility during their lifetimes either!!
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 8:35:44 PM
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I was conflicted netween a couple of the choices so I took the road less traveled and voted "Other/Explain". Part of my rationale is that I am unsure as to whether or not the phenom known as global warming actually exists; if I were to take the word of scientists that think the world is billions of years old then why bother getting upset about it since the world has gone through many, many of theses heatup/cool down cycles?
Then there's the fact that there are a number of scientific evidences that indicate the Earth is not undergoing any such cataclysmic event! Yeah Yeah Yeah I know no one gives them any credibility because they disagree with the status quo! BIG DEAL!!! No one gave Galileo, Keppler, Newton or any number of other scientists any credibility during their lifetimes either!!
I think Al Gore is out to snacks on this one; and agree w/ the above. Recently it was over 70 degrees in NY in the middle of winter, look @ Colorado & Calif. may loose it's citrus crop due to the cold temperatures experienced there.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 8:41:35 PM
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Part of my rationale is that I am unsure as to whether or not the phenom known as global warming actually exists;
Read an environmental science textbook.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 8:52:17 PM
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Part of my rationale is that I am unsure as to whether or not the phenom known as global warming actually exists
I think that it probably is occurring - the polar ice caps are melting and a lot of glaciers are shrinking. The big question is whether or not we are causing it. I don't think there is any conclusive evidence that we are. The planet has been through more than one ice age and subsequent warming. The desert in West Texas was the Permian Ocean at one time. It just doesn't seem unnatural.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 8:55:59 PM
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There is no proof of global warming. It is just like evolution. Just because something has gained acceptance into the mainstream (College textbooks, Discovery Channel, "An Inconvenient Truth", etc) doesn't necessarily make it so. Many of the proponents of global warming are the same people that turn around and say the Bible isn't the Word of God. Now, that some evangelicals get on board doesn't make it so either. Especially, given the current condition of the Church with the continued acceptance of worldly ideas and influence.
We had a drought in my part of the country a few years ago and everbody was talking global warming. Now we're in the midst of a fairly severe winter pattern; lots of snow and frigid temperatures. Is it global cooling now? The severe hurricane season a couple of years ago was being billed as the result of global warming. This past hurricane season was light to moderate at best. Where is the global warming crowd now? My point being is that it may be the result of the normal cycle of weather patterns around the earth. I think the whole movement is designed to produce fear in people so they will be susceptible to the ideas and promotions global warming advocates try to put on us.
There is nothing wrong with being a steward of the environment. But Christians need to be more about the spreading of the Gospel and protecting the institutions that support it, in my opinion.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 8:58:55 PM
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this has to do with stewardship for God's creation, and caring for others both now and in coming generations. if anyone can convince me that those are somehow "unchristian" concerns, the i'll believe this is not an important charge. of course, those to whom the highest goal in life is making the most money in the fastest possible way, and who believe that short sightedness and greed are somehow virtuous will fight any kind of environmental care anyway they can. i don't give "scientists" paid by utility companies, oil companies and right wing think tanks much creedence on this issue, sorry.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 9:44:40 PM
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Look at the causes, mostly natural.
Look at the proposed solutions.
Mostly socialism.
This is a political movement not science and it is sad that the supposedly conservative evangelicals are siding with radical liberal "scientists".
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 10:24:07 PM
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What are they going to do about the global warming on Mars?
Have no doubt the earth is in a climate change. Just doubt the chicken littles on how much man is impacting it.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 10:28:44 PM
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Part of my rationale is that I am unsure as to whether or not the phenom known as global warming actually exists;
Read an environmental science textbook.
Be nice.....I taught College for over 16 years so I had plenty of exposure to varying opinions about things. There are enough credible scientists on each side of the spectrum to cause doubt
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 10:29:44 PM
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Part of my rationale is that I am unsure as to whether or not the phenom known as global warming actually exists
I think that it probably is occurring - the polar ice caps are melting and a lot of glaciers are shrinking. The big question is whether or not we are causing it. I don't think there is any conclusive evidence that we are. The planet has been through more than one ice age and subsequent warming. The desert in West Texas was the Permian Ocean at one time. It just doesn't seem unnatural.
If these things have happenned before what's to say they aren't happening now?
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Look at the causes, mostly natural.
Look at the proposed solutions.
Mostly socialism.
This is a political movement not science and it is sad that the supposedly conservative evangelicals are siding with radical liberal "scientists".
Exactly. I once believed very stongly in environmentalism. I have worked in the environmental field for three years and I studied environmental science at university. The more I got older and the more I looked into such issues like global warming/environmentalism the more I realise it is driven by secular idealogies that are based upon Marxism. It is the same movement 50 years ago that was all for communism. In Australia, an environmentalist gets labelled as a 'watermelon'. Meaning, green on the outside (environmentalism), red in the middle (communism).
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 10:33:41 PM
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this has to do with stewardship for God's creation, and caring for others both now and in coming generations. if anyone can convince me that those are somehow "unchristian" concerns, the i'll believe this is not an important charge. of course, those to whom the highest goal in life is making the most money in the fastest possible way, and who believe that short sightedness and greed are somehow virtuous will fight any kind of environmental care anyway they can. i don't give "scientists" paid by utility companies, oil companies and right wing think tanks much creedence on this issue, sorry.
I agree that stewardship of what God has given us is extremely important but I'm not willing to discount scientific opinion just because I disagree with it. There are scientists other than those "paid by utility companies, oil companies and right wing think tanks much creedence on this issue". FWIW your bias is ahowing when you write "scientists" and place it in quotes.
Is it possible that the Al Gore "scientists" are wrong???
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 10:42:59 PM
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If these things have happenned before what's to say they aren't happening now?
That is what I was saying . . .
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 10:50:53 PM
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Have no doubt the earth is in a climate change. Just doubt the chicken littles on how much man is impacting it.
Agreed.
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RE: Evangelicals, scientists join forces to combat glob... - 1/15/2007 11:33:36 PM
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Not necessarily so. I think it's enlightening/informative. My point above was that teaching college doesn't make you an instant expert on every subject there is.
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