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Halo 3: ODST - 10/5/2009 2:34:32 AM
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The campaign is just as good as any Halo campaign.
The soundtrack is awesome.
However, the reason to buy this game is the 'Firefight' mode. It's a little bit of a knock-off of CoD's Nazi Zombies, but Halo style. You and up to 3 other people get to see how many waves of Covenant you can survive in a fairly small map.
Still not as good as Call of Duty (Halo is too slow), but still excellent sci-fi Halo fun.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/5/2009 10:15:07 PM
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My nephew is 11. He won't be 12 until New Years Eve. He wanted a new computer and he got an X-Box through E-Bay. Except that it came with Halo! I think he is to young to have the game but he tells me all his friends have it. I know it's rated M. I think it's way to violent. Now he wants the game you are talking about. My sister thinks it's okay for him to play it.
Do you think he should be playing it? I'm guessing from what I read you don't have a problem with the violence. I do. I hate that he plays games like that and wants me to play too. I told him if those are the kind of games he has that he has to leave his X-Box at home and he has. He is such a wonderful child, loves to give hugs and everybody loves him. I'd hate to think this will change him.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/6/2009 5:08:43 AM
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Greetings Gail!
This is one of the areas that I think every Christian has to work out between themselves and God. I have little problem with violence, with some exceptions. For example, there is just no reason to be a drug dealer who kills cops and beats up prostitutes while stealing cars in the Grand Theft Auto games.
I like the Halo series a lot. The story is good sci-fi, and there are actually a lot of moral issues that come up throughout the campaign story. I play with a lot of men from my church, and also play with 3 of my nephews (all around 12 yrs old) who live in another state.
You are going to have to examine who your nephew really is. Some kids don't deal well with violence, some have no problem with it. I've played a LOT of "violent" video games for decades and have suffered no ill effects  . In fact, I am one of the most empathetic and sympathetic people I know, have a good healthy relationship with my boys, my wife, my family, and all of my friends! I don't say that to brag, but just to let you know that "violent" games don't turn a person into a serial killer or wife-beater.
If it goes against your conscience to buy such games for your nephew (even if he is allowed to play them), then don't buy them because you would be sinning. There are plenty of fun adventure games, puzzle games, sports games, racing games, and various other types of games that don't involve "killing".
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/6/2009 7:46:57 AM
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personally, i dont see the harm in halo. your shooting aliens from other planets... not people. its the same as hunting games liek Deer Hunter or whatever. but thats me.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/6/2009 9:59:58 PM
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i agree, i was just offering that because some parents/guardians object to games because they THINK its bad... not because it really is bad.
she she thinks halo is violent, fine. but what if she thinks halo is violent because someone told her you kill people and teachers and parents, but she would be perfectly fine with it if it was aliens?
i was just offering a brief synopsis of the violence, making sure she knew what the game was like before making a judgement. because my mom was the worst at it. she would boycot a game just because leiberman said so, but had no idea what the game was like or what was in it.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/7/2009 1:41:58 AM
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i agree, i was just offering that because some parents/guardians object to games because they THINK its bad... not because it really is bad.
she she thinks halo is violent, fine. but what if she thinks halo is violent because someone told her you kill people and teachers and parents, but she would be perfectly fine with it if it was aliens?
i was just offering a brief synopsis of the violence, making sure she knew what the game was like before making a judgement. because my mom was the worst at it. she would boycot a game just because leiberman said so, but had no idea what the game was like or what was in it.
I hear ya. Being educated on a subject is important.
Halo is certainly pretty standard sci-fi violence: military dudes killing aliens. However, there is a bit of salty language, and if you watch the cut-scenes while playing the campaigns there are Marines who do die, and your squad can also die while playing.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/7/2009 8:01:32 AM
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Too be honest it wasn't worth $60; $30 maybe...
My biggest problem is the fact that there is no matchmaking with the Firefight mode; all you can do is:
(1) Start a match and hope some of your friends are on and invite them.
(2) Or just play by yourself, and leave it open for your friends.
I can't believe Bungie overlooked that problem.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/7/2009 3:25:03 PM
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Too be honest it wasn't worth $60; $30 maybe...
My biggest problem is the fact that there is no matchmaking with the Firefight mode; all you can do is:
(1) Start a match and hope some of your friends are on and invite them.
(2) Or just play by yourself, and leave it open for your friends.
I can't believe Bungie overlooked that problem.
I guess I have enough local players that it didn't bother me. I actually didn't even know what you posted because I hadn't tried to play online. I am sure it will be given a matchmaking mode via patch sometime soon.
If you use the second disc, is it on there? Or is that just regular Halo 3 stuff?
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/7/2009 5:45:26 PM
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According to Xbox.com, a simple patch won't work. They would have to write new code...something which Bungie is either unwilling or unable to do. And no, the firefight mode is not on the second disc, either. That is just all the maps from Halo 3 plus 3 new ones.
One thing I have discovered that is the original Halo 3 disc multiplayer and the second disc in the ODST are compatible with each other.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/7/2009 9:15:07 PM
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According to Xbox.com, a simple patch won't work. They would have to write new code...something which Bungie is either unwilling or unable to do. And no, the firefight mode is not on the second disc, either. That is just all the maps from Halo 3 plus 3 new ones.
One thing I have discovered that is the original Halo 3 disc multiplayer and the second disc in the ODST are compatible with each other.
Ahh, well that stinks. One of the reasons I LOVE Call of Duty: World at War is NAZI ZOMBIE mode, and the reason it can be so fun is that you can play with three other players via Xbox Live.
It seems really weird that this isn't a feature for Firefight, as it is really really fun with a full team of four players.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/8/2009 6:19:05 AM
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I beat the Campaign on Heroic tonight. It was an excellent story, but way shorter than I would prefer!
Now, on to beating the challenges!
For each Firefight level, there is a challenge to accumulate 200,000 points. I can barely get to 30,000. How in the world do you get 200,000 points?!?!?
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/8/2009 7:00:32 AM
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Hey guys,
I just wanted to throw a link out to my review of Halo 3: ODST on TheFish.com. For those who were discussing appropriateness, violence and the like, the review highlights any areas parents may want to know about before purchasing this game for their kids.
Check it out: http://www.thefish.com/games/reviews/11609468/
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/8/2009 7:53:08 AM
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Hey guys,
I just wanted to throw a link out to my review of Halo 3: ODST on TheFish.com. For those who were discussing appropriateness, violence and the like, the review highlights any areas parents may want to know about before purchasing this game for their kids.
Check it out: http://www.thefish.com/games/reviews/11609468/
I noticed you were the author of that review.
VERY well done. If anyone ever has questions regarding this game, I will make sure to direct them to your review.
Good job.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/8/2009 10:17:34 AM
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Thanks ManimalX, appreciated.
If you have time, pop on over to the article and comment. It'll be appreciated to help get that ball rolling. Thanks!
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/8/2009 12:34:19 PM
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I never saw the point of 1st person shooter games: run around and kill stuff. Pretty boring IMHO. I prefer a game with storyline and ways to customize your playing experience...like World of Warcraft. Plus its annoying playing a game where you can only see a small portion of the action directly in front of you as opposed to a third-person view where you can see what's going on around you.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/8/2009 11:14:44 PM
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I never saw the point of 1st person shooter games: run around and kill stuff. Pretty boring IMHO. I prefer a game with storyline and ways to customize your playing experience...like World of Warcraft. Plus its annoying playing a game where you can only see a small portion of the action directly in front of you as opposed to a third-person view where you can see what's going on around you.
1st person is definitely not for everybody, but to say they don't have a storyline is silly! Some of the best video game stories are from 1st person games (shooter or otherwise). The Call of Duty campaigns, for example, are excellent stories if you like WWII. They are like playing in Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers.
Fallout 3 is one of the best storylines out there, and it is 1st person. It can be played 3rd, but it is made for 1st and the 3rd is awkward.
In the spirit of this thread, the Halo storyline is an excellent sci-fi epic, with a grade-A score to boot.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/13/2009 8:24:04 AM
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I've never seen the fuss about Halo. I've always found them boring. I played the first two on PC and it was basically just killing the same 4 enemies over and over. As much money as they've made you think they could hire some more animators to make a few extra models. I know multiplayer is supposed to be the whole reason to play, bnut even that is repetitive.
Crysis and Half-Life blow it out of the water.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/14/2009 5:38:00 AM
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I've never seen the fuss about Halo. I've always found them boring. I played the first two on PC and it was basically just killing the same 4 enemies over and over. As much money as they've made you think they could hire some more animators to make a few extra models. I know multiplayer is supposed to be the whole reason to play, bnut even that is repetitive.
Crysis and Half-Life blow it out of the water.
I can defnitely understand what you mean. I chalk it up to personal preference and maybe a bit of emotional attachment (Halo was my first Xbox game and I have spent hundreds of hours playing with friends and family)
However, the broader story of Halo makes it interesting: the Covenant exist as, well, a covenant! They are different races that live in a sort of caste system (grunts, elites, brutes, Prophets, with a little Hunter muscle thrown in for fun), all bound together in a theocratic hierarchy. And, they are in the midst of revolution!
To say that the four alien races are boring and not enough is to ignore the story line! That is like saying a WWII game is boring because there are only two enemies: Germans and Japanese!
Its the overall message and story that make it interesting, not just the cast of characters.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/14/2009 7:38:27 AM
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so bottomline, is this game worth buying?
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/14/2009 9:28:48 AM
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so bottomline, is this game worth buying?
"Yes", if you are a Halo fan, and "yes" if you haven't even played Halo before.
The campaign is very well done, if a bit short. You play as an "Orbital Drop Shock Trooper" who gets separated from his team upon drop into New Mombasa (during the Halo 2 storyline). It has a bit of a "zombie survival" feel, as you are on your own making your way through a nighttime New Mombasa that is overrun with Covenant. Every little bit, you find a piece of equipment from another member of your squad, which triggers a flashback in which you play that squad member during the little scenario that resulted in them dropping or discarding said equipment.
It is a good story idea, and plays well. Plus, the score is haunting and beautiful. I will buy it when it comes out on CD or MP3. just for the fact that it is excellent classical/new age music.
The highlight for me is the "Firefight" mode, which pits you and up to three other friends against increasingly difficult waves of covenant on whichever of the game's maps you decide to play on.
On Xbox 360, there is a Firefight challenge for every map of 200,000 points. Playing solo, you can try it on "Easy", which means you hardly get touched, but every kill is worth a very small amount of points. I played for hours and barely scored over 30,000 points. Play on "Legendary", and every kill is worth a lot of points, but grunts take nearly a full magazine to kill and GOOD LUCK with Brute Chieftains and Hunters, especially when they are shielded by Engineers... OY! You can rack up a lot of points quickly, but you will be burning through your lives like the Hindenburg on fire!
To me, it is worth $59. To others, it may be worth waiting until you can get it used for $35-45.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/15/2009 12:56:35 AM
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I never saw the point of 1st person shooter games: run around and kill stuff. Pretty boring IMHO. I prefer a game with storyline and ways to customize your playing experience...like World of Warcraft. Plus its annoying playing a game where you can only see a small portion of the action directly in front of you as opposed to a third-person view where you can see what's going on around you.
1st person is definitely not for everybody, but to say they don't have a storyline is silly! Some of the best video game stories are from 1st person games (shooter or otherwise). The Call of Duty campaigns, for example, are excellent stories if you like WWII. They are like playing in Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers.
Fallout 3 is one of the best storylines out there, and it is 1st person. It can be played 3rd, but it is made for 1st and the 3rd is awkward.
In the spirit of this thread, the Halo storyline is an excellent sci-fi epic, with a grade-A score to boot.
Have you ever tried World of Warcraft, ManimalX? Storylines in WOW are downright Shakespearean and there are so many different ways to play the game that it's almost impossible to quantify the breadth of possibilities. I'm sure Halo has some storyline to it, but it's not what the game is known for. Halo is known for shooting and killing quickly and seeing who can rack up the most kills. A game that's simply a bloodbath for blood's sake is not entertaining to me in the slightest. Very Roman Coliseum-esque.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/15/2009 3:09:50 AM
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As a long-time RPG fanatic, I tried WoW several years ago, and then again earlier this year for a few months and both ended with me in the same state: bored out of my skull! At this point in my life, I just can't waste hours upon hours grinding levels just so I can get the next best loot drop which is barely powerful enough to let me grind for more hours upon hours to get the next loot that is only useful for a few more levels of grinding.... I think you get my drift. And the other option, PvP, is exactly how you described Halo: killing quickly to see who can rack up the most kills, and un-bloody bloodbaths for bragging rights. PvP in WoW is insanely aggravating and yet somehow boring at the same time. Whoever has the highest level and best gear wins. Yipee!
Regarding WoW's storyline... I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me the WoW storylines are just standard recycled generic stock fantasy, and a bit comical at that.
I just can't justify PAYING $15 a month for the "pleasure" of endless grinding and unbalanced PvP, when I can pay $7/month for Xbox Live and play any of the dozens of games I have.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/15/2009 6:34:26 AM
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so bottomline, is this game worth buying?
"Yes", if you are a Halo fan, and "yes" if you haven't even played Halo before.
The campaign is very well done, if a bit short. You play as an "Orbital Drop Shock Trooper" who gets separated from his team upon drop into New Mombasa (during the Halo 2 storyline). It has a bit of a "zombie survival" feel, as you are on your own making your way through a nighttime New Mombasa that is overrun with Covenant. Every little bit, you find a piece of equipment from another member of your squad, which triggers a flashback in which you play that squad member during the little scenario that resulted in them dropping or discarding said equipment.
It is a good story idea, and plays well. Plus, the score is haunting and beautiful. I will buy it when it comes out on CD or MP3. just for the fact that it is excellent classical/new age music.
The highlight for me is the "Firefight" mode, which pits you and up to three other friends against increasingly difficult waves of covenant on whichever of the game's maps you decide to play on.
On Xbox 360, there is a Firefight challenge for every map of 200,000 points. Playing solo, you can try it on "Easy", which means you hardly get touched, but every kill is worth a very small amount of points. I played for hours and barely scored over 30,000 points. Play on "Legendary", and every kill is worth a lot of points, but grunts take nearly a full magazine to kill and GOOD LUCK with Brute Chieftains and Hunters, especially when they are shielded by Engineers... OY! You can rack up a lot of points quickly, but you will be burning through your lives like the Hindenburg on fire!
To me, it is worth $59. To others, it may be worth waiting until you can get it used for $35-45.
I loved the Halo series especially Halo 3 so I may check it out later in the year.
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RE: Halo 3: ODST - 10/15/2009 10:30:04 AM
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As a long-time RPG fanatic, I tried WoW several years ago, and then again earlier this year for a few months and both ended with me in the same state: bored out of my skull! At this point in my life, I just can't waste hours upon hours grinding levels just so I can get the next best loot drop which is barely powerful enough to let me grind for more hours upon hours to get the next loot that is only useful for a few more levels of grinding.... I think you get my drift. And the other option, PvP, is exactly how you described Halo: killing quickly to see who can rack up the most kills, and un-bloody bloodbaths for bragging rights. PvP in WoW is insanely aggravating and yet somehow boring at the same time. Whoever has the highest level and best gear wins. Yipee!
Regarding WoW's storyline... I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me the WoW storylines are just standard recycled generic stock fantasy, and a bit comical at that.
I just can't justify PAYING $15 a month for the "pleasure" of endless grinding and unbalanced PvP, when I can pay $7/month for Xbox Live and play any of the dozens of games I have.
I would defend WoW, but there's a whole 'nother thread for that. So, what do you do with your $7/month on Xbox live when playing Halo? My personal experience with Halo is going to Halo parties with friends where they spend all night picking different arenas and running around killing each other. Kinda like laser tag at the local fun center without the actual physical activity. So, since your boredom with WoW was based on the levelling and gearing up, would you say you enjoy the even playing field in Halo where everyone has (essentially) the same gear?
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