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Why the Left Must Deny 9/11
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Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 11:11:24 AM
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brooklynsblessed1
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Why the Left Must Deny 9/11
By James Lewis
In the endless Summer of Love there is no 9/11. And to tens of millions of dreamy folk on the Left, the Summer of Love never stopped. For those people there is no dangerous Ahmadi-Nejad in Tehran, threatening a fiery new holocaust for Tel Aviv and Washington, DC. There is no nuclear proliferation by mad little mass-murdering Kim Jong Il. There is no Osama Bin Laden stirring up terror cells around the world -- just a poor, confused man somewhere in the mysterious, deeply spiritual East, whom we have offended in some terrible way.
For the Dreamy Left there is no history, and no fundamental human conflict. There was no Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor half a century ago -- except as a terrible misunderstanding, because our parents and grandparents were just so ignorant and racist in that benighted time. There was never a Cold War, there is no necessary war ever, there is no human value worth fighting for. We have transcended all that by our saintly morality and good will. History was mostly a big misunderstanding. Reality is only an agreement. Peace and Love are forever and ever, and nobody has to do anything to make it so, except to wish for it hard enough. If everybody wants it, it will be so.
For decades I've seen the bumper stickers: "Visualize World Peace," "If you think it, it will happen." What I never really grasped is that millions of reality-impaired people actually believe that. Last summer, the good people at "World Jump Day"
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/09/why_the_left_must_deny_911.html
The left & Hellary, Obama, etc. would be a horror if they were in command in the event of another terror attack, especially since 9/11 may have just have been a dress rehearsal.
John Edwards thinks the war on terror is a bumper sticker.
Chairman Fidel loves the idea of Clinton or Obama having their finger on the bomb, wonder why ?
Even Clinton admits terror would boost the GOP***, wonder why ????
*** http://faithcommunitynetwork.com/HILL%3a_TERROR_WOULD_BE_GOP_BOOST/m_2646801/tm.htm
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 11:49:43 AM
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I have absolutely no clue what the point of that diatribe was about.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 11:59:02 AM
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Well there's more to AMERICAN THINKER via the link...but here's a leftist response to 9/11, see if you understand this any better:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/11/7522/66698
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 12:46:52 PM
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ORIGINAL: brooklynsblessed1
Well there's more to AMERICAN THINKER via the link...but here's a leftist response to 9/11, see if you understand this any better:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/11/7522/66698
Did you read it, Brooks? There was acknowledgement of 9/11 and the exploitation of it by the neocons and the supporting president. Actually, I thought it was pretty mild.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 12:57:08 PM
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Yes but I was kinda pointing out to rlj that the left view was a little jumbled too:
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I have absolutely no clue what the point of that diatribe was about.
But I do agree w/ Clinton that terror would boost the GOP, and for me for the obvious reasons.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 9:30:06 PM
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Funny how the people who voted for the war now think its a bad idea.
Hypocrits.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 9:39:27 PM
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Son in Me, there are plenty of Democratic leaders that have been against the war from the start (Kucinich and Obama, for starters) others voted for it BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD LIES BY THE PRESIDENT.
And Brooklyn, I don't see how the effort to eliminate the deliberate and misleading false link between the 9-11 attacks and the war in Iraq is a sign of weakness. It takes courage to tell the truth.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 9:51:11 PM
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The president did not LIE. He gave information that was available from sources not his own.
The entire anti-war position is politically motivated. Not one democrat has an alternative to us going to war or that going was wrong. They all proclaim they could have done it better...without one bit of a plan saying how.
Its pure politics and there is no doubt in my mind that memorials to 9/11 and rememberences HURT their devious and underhanded cause....POWER!!!!!
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 9:57:21 PM
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Son in Me, there are plenty of Democratic leaders that have been against the war from the start (Kucinich and Obama, for starters) others voted for it BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD LIES BY THE PRESIDENT.
And Brooklyn, I don't see how the effort to eliminate the deliberate and misleading false link between the 9-11 attacks and the war in Iraq is a sign of weakness. It takes courage to tell the truth.
rev the dems are weak, how can they not be, they profess Christ but show no evidence backing abortion, lesbian pastors, gay unions..it's disgusting, & maybe Dennis The Vegamatic *** needs some iron-he was also criticizing Bush while overseas.
Castro would love Hillary or Obama commanding the troops.
That group of Edwards, et. al are a terrorists dream.
***Rep. Dennis Kucinich Stands Alone Opposed to Sept. 11 Commemoration Resolution
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< Message edited by brooklynsblessed1 -- 9/11/2007 10:09:21 PM >
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/11/2007 10:11:24 PM
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The president did not LIE. He gave information that was available from sources not his own.
Including information that he knew wasn't true. Information like Sadaam trying to acquire yellow-cake uranium from Nigeria.
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The entire anti-war position is politically motivated. Not one democrat has an alternative to us going to war or that going was wrong. They all proclaim they could have done it better...without one bit of a plan saying how.
This is also not true. For an one example of a democrat of faith that had another plan, read Jim Wallis' "The Politics of Jesus." Clinton and Carter were also among those with different plans.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 12:07:07 AM
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I do understand the second link and that has been my opinion since 9/12/01 that this administration has exploited 9/11. Patriot act this, yellow alert, Osama video, blue alert, it's Bill Clinton's fault, orange alert, let's send Colin Powell to give a speech with a bunch of trumped up dishonest data for war with Iraq, sky-blue pink alert, thousands of people of several nationalities entering the country to provide cheap labor that include nationalities that have launched suicide attacks against us in the past, no alert- just let them through. As a matter of fact we need them to come in even faster.
Really though I still don't understand the point of the AT article. To me the guy who wrote it sounds like he woke up drunk and had about 10 minutes to slap something down to make deadline.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 1:44:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1
The president did not LIE.
At the very least, he cherry-picked... which really is the same thing. He had conflicting intelligence, and he only shared info that supported the invasion of Iraq.
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The entire anti-war position is politically motivated.
Um... it's not anti-war. It's anti-War In Iraq. I don't know anyone who's opposed to the war on Osama bin Laden. Many leftists are angry that we got so distracted by Iraq, we took our eyes off the prize in Afghanistan and let OBL live to fight another day.
And believe me -- wanting bin Laden captured or killed is anything BUT politically motivated.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 9:24:32 AM
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Um... it's not anti-war. It's anti-War In Iraq. I don't know anyone who's opposed to the war on Osama bin Laden. Many leftists are angry that we got so distracted by Iraq, we took our eyes off the prize in Afghanistan and let OBL live to fight another day.
Um, last time I checked we still have operations going in Afghanistan. The left would have us believe that the military simply packed up and left, which is simply untrue.
And yes, there were those on the left side of the issue who opposed our going into Afghanistan, citing the Soviet's lack of success there and saying we were in for the same measure of defeat.....
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 10:12:21 AM
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Um, last time I checked we still have operations going in Afghanistan. The left would have us believe that the military simply packed up and left, which is simply untrue.
And yes, there were those on the left side of the issue who opposed our going into Afghanistan, citing the Soviet's lack of success there and saying we were in for the same measure of defeat.....
There were some on the right to. Still though I have heard very little criticism of what he have done in Afghanistan except that Iraq distracts from it. The plans for the Afghan invasion were also laid out during Clinton's tenure and the operation was ready to go in 2000. He decided against launching it and allowed the next president to do so. Bush had about the same amount of time to launch the Afghan invasion as Clinton did once it was prepared.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 12:31:13 PM
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If either Hellary or Osama are elected president, I hope that we do not get another attack, for by the time they get through with polling and focus groups on what to we will be overwhelmed by terrorist.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 12:46:03 PM
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I would note that Congress looked at the same intelligence and voted overwhelmingly for the war, democrats included. So, if Bush lied, so did Hillary and the rest of Congress.
I highly doubt OBL is still in Afghanistan.
People are just too impatient these days. We had occupying forces in Japan (Okinawa) left over from WWII in 1972, and they didn't even really resist us after the treaty was signed. They certainly didn't have foreign fighters coming in to attack our troops.
Rebuilding a government takes time.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 8:15:16 PM
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If either Hellary or Osama are elected president, I hope that we do not get another attack, for by the time they get through with polling and focus groups on what to we will be overwhelmed by terrorist.
Thanks
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Michael Savage’s Commentary on September 11, 2007
http://www.savage-productions.com/uncivil_liberties.html
The above is what radio talk show host Dr. Michael Savage thinks about the left on 9/11, no wonder some would want to see him run for President. Yes, the Dr. can be extreme....
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 9:42:31 PM
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So...Bush cherry picked...and the democrats run from 9/11.
Like I said...this is politics as usual.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 11:34:37 PM
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"I think we should not have had this discussion on 9/11 or 9/10 or 9/12," Obama said during his opening statement. "It perpetuates this notion that the original attacks had something to do with going into Iraq."
I agree.
...and I have yet to hear any of the Presidential candidates "deny 9/11'.
I have heard some well-deserved cricticism of the way this Administration responded to and exploited 9/11.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/12/2007 11:53:12 PM
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I would note that Congress looked at the same intelligence and voted overwhelmingly for the war, democrats included. So, if Bush lied, so did Hillary and the rest of Congress.
This is where Rove made a super huge mistake in coming up with Republican strategy. After getting the dems to support the war he had the Republicans turn their back on them. After the war going into '04 he made sure that the dems looked weak on terror and in Iraq even though he had already had their support. Now come the '06 midterms, people are fed up with the war and all of a sudden the Republicans want to point out the "bipartisan support" of the war. It's too late- had they welcomed the dems and not turned their backs on them and hammered the point home about how "bipartisan" this operation was they could have shared the blame. They didn't though.
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People are just too impatient these days. We had occupying forces in Japan (Okinawa) left over from WWII in 1972, and they didn't even really resist us after the treaty was signed. They certainly didn't have foreign fighters coming in to attack our troops.
Japan has a common border with Russia, Mao had won in China around 1949 then Korea. Our extended presence in that part of the world had nothing to do with rebuilding Japan and everything to do with Cold War strategy in the Pacific. It is also interesting that MacArthur made a case for dismantling SCAP and turning leadership of Japan over to the Japanese people because they had chosen to embrace democracy and live peacefully. He was overruled, in 1947.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/13/2007 6:50:30 AM
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Japan has a common border with Russia?
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/13/2007 6:55:23 AM
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Japan has a common border with Russia?
Geography isn't required to get an engineering degree but I don't think Japan has a common border with anyone.
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RE: Why the Left Must Deny 9/11 - 9/13/2007 9:15:44 AM
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If either Hellary or Osama are elected president, I hope that we do not get another attack, for by the time they get through with polling and focus groups on what to we will be overwhelmed by terrorist.
Thanks
RC
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Michael Savage’s Commentary on September 11, 2007
http://www.savage-productions.com/uncivil_liberties.html
The above is what radio talk show host Dr. Michael Savage thinks about the left on 9/11, no wonder some would want to see him run for President. Yes, the Dr. can be extreme....
If being unintelligent and rhetorically gifted are the only requirements for becoming a US President now, then I would say that Savage stands just as much a chance as anyone else...shudder...
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