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Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts


True for them in general
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Not generally true
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True & very disturbing
  17% (9)
Reason many don't have a religious background
  13% (7)
Many embrace NAMBALA @ Gay Pride, etc.
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ACLU jumps to defend pervs
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Many schools teach immoral behaviors
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I'm a liberal and against all perversions
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Other/ Explain
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Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 11:58:10 AM   
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Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts
By Kevin McCullough
Sunday, August 26, 2007

When liberals are given the choice between acting decently or choosing the riches of perversion - liberals prefer perversion. And if protecting the honor, privacy, and even nakedness of vulnerable women and children is juxtaposed to say the slightest possibility that someone's right to practice perversion might be curbed - liberals will come running to the aid of the pervert. In fact liberals will go so far to protect perversion that they will actually enlist the use of potential victims to make the case, consequences to the unsuspecting females be damned!

They will say it with a lawsuit. They will say it in print. They will even brag about it in mass media.

Liberals at their core have no sense of true north. They can't determine right from wrong, good from evil, and in this case even help from hurt. Worse yet - they don't care. The hardness of their hearts towards the victim is not only apparent in their actions, but the mockery of their words adds insult to injury.





2 Pg. article by Kevin here:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2007/08/26/why_liberals_always_protect_perverts

This is a fine article at TOWNHALL, Kevin pulls no punches in general & I would in general think that many liberals have a too casual attitude towards perversion. The ACLU, and many gay groups are out there daily pushing these wrong attitudes.I was as a NYer especially proud of Rudy's closing down many of the XXX businesses in this great city, thereby greatly improving the quality of life.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 12:16:49 PM   
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The use of the word perversion is rather emotive and polarizing and maybe doesn't do anything but hide your own sins! After all who made you the standard of all behavior?

In many instances the freedom our constitution guarantees us is not based upon everyone holding the same set of standards and while the freedom the conservatives hold out as freedom is nothing more than their own interpretation of what is right. Diversity is a valuable commodity in and of itself, it blends in the richness of all the different minorities into a melting pot.

What the genius of this country offers us is freedom from the majority forcing others into accepting their point of view. How many times has some minority point of view actually become the law of the land? Well to abolish slavery took many years but it was a very small minority that held that belief to start with. If we had accepted the majority as law then we would still have slavery wouldn't we?

I resist the idea of using the term 'perversion', it tells us more about the person using the term than the activity of the one accused, and maybe that is liberal of me but it is also allowing the greatest possible freedom to exist. It is like a liberal's use of the term Nazi in describing a conservative. Both of these terms (Nazi and Pervert) are emotive and unproductive rhetoric not a logical argument.
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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 12:21:14 PM   
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So what's the politically correct term to use today?

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 12:25:06 PM   
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I don't know degenerate ?

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 12:27:31 PM   
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Or Mister Peeping Thomas, Gentleman Of Leisure ?

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 12:53:06 PM   
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Or Mister Peeping Thomas, Gentleman Of Leisure ?

How about Ted Haggard?

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 1:01:00 PM   
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Or how about "Hell bound scum bag"!

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 1:25:23 PM   
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Liberalism is a perversion of the mind. Mental illness and dangerous one at that. Normality of any kind is something they hate on subconscious level so, not surprisingly perversions of all kinds is something they see as allies in destruction of moral fabric of society.
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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 3:08:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

So what's the politically correct term to use today?


Degenerate and peeping tom is too nice a term for a creep who wants to look up womens' skirts or peep through drilled holes into hotel showers or retail dressing rooms. Yuck! I say pervert is the correct term.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 3:40:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Suhar

Liberalism is a perversion of the mind. Mental illness and dangerous one at that. Normality of any kind is something they hate on subconscious level so, not surprisingly perversions of all kinds is something they see as allies in destruction of moral fabric of society.


And Ted Haggard is having an easy ride from liberals?

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 4:38:28 PM   
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Has mercy been left out of your Christian walks??????

What about the ideal of freedom for everyone, has that been taken out of your vocabulary too?????

The judgment you exercise on others might in due time be exercised on you so be prepared. Conformity for you seems more like the goal you seek rather than freedom. Security from anything that might just make you think harder than 1+1=2. Well for those who want to give up freedom for security deserve neither of them.
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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 4:51:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 45degreeN

Has mercy been left out of your Christian walks??????



How can there be mercy if there is no judgment or more specifically if there is no tresspass (sin)?


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Romans 5

13for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.


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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 5:53:10 PM   
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When liberals are given the choice between acting decently or choosing the riches of perversion - liberals prefer perversion.


This is a delightful bit of rhetoric.

His article really does nothing but polarize and spew hatred. He is overly emotional and he paints with way too broad of a brush. It's just a bit of fluff to get the choir angry and singing. It's the conservative equivelant of liberals saying something like: "Conservatives are greedy war mongers!"

This is even better:

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Suhar: Liberalism is a perversion of the mind. Mental illness and dangerous one at that


Where oh where have all the rational conservatives gone on this forum? I.E. the Ones who could express disagreement with concrete policy issues, and debate/argue like adults without also demonizing the opponent and making overly emotional below the bealt statements. There used to be some on this forum, you know, and I know they're still out there somewhere.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 6:58:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Suhar

Liberalism is a perversion of the mind. Mental illness and dangerous one at that. Normality of any kind is something they hate on subconscious level so, not surprisingly perversions of all kinds is something they see as allies in destruction of moral fabric of society.


For the most part, I am a conservative, but I would say that comment like this one make it hard to have an intelligent debate. Do you have anything of substance to add on the original topic?
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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 7:11:54 PM   
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I totally agree Stevesund. I don't know what I am, I think I am more of the left, but then I am also very conservative with my belief, so not sure. I think most people on this board are of the right, and I wonder.....


quote:

Where oh where have all the rational conservatives gone on this forum? I.E. the Ones who could express disagreement with concrete policy issues, and debate/argue like adults without also demonizing the opponent and making overly emotional below the bealt statements. There used to be some on this forum, you know, and I know they're still out there somewhere.


that is what I would like to hear. An intelligent debate goes a long way. This article is totally biased an unintelligent and basically says nothing other than throw a whole lot of unintelligent accusations.

< Message edited by Giulia -- 8/27/2007 7:20:52 PM >


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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 9:21:16 PM   
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Kevin is a great Christian broadcaster on a station affiliated w/ this website, he is a book author & has helped raise 100s of 1000s for missions, out of country bible distributions, homeless programs, packages for overseas troops and currently book bags and school supplies for homeless kids, here is a statement from his site:

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My column this week deals with the deviancy of a society that protects perverts who wedge themselves into places to specifically invade otherwise unsuspecting females in otherwise reasonably private places for the single motive of prurient exploitation. We discussed it on Friday and the need to ban such practices as illegal largely out of a motivation to end the victimization of innocent women and children. The push-back against me was harsh, normally social and moral conservatives even took swipes: arguing vagueness in the law, or seen as lacking in certain provisions. What I TRULY want to know and understand is - do these people truly mean it? Are they willing, like the ACLU, liberal talk show hosts, and even avowed feminists to side with the perverts on this? Your calls are welcomed - particularly if you read the column and DO disagree with me - and its toll free across the nation: 1.800.345.WMCA.


http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/27/2007 11:51:48 PM   
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Has mercy been left out of your Christian walks??????

What about the ideal of freedom for everyone, has that been taken out of your vocabulary too?????

The judgment you exercise on others might in due time be exercised on you so be prepared. Conformity for you seems more like the goal you seek rather than freedom. Security from anything that might just make you think harder than 1+1=2. Well for those who want to give up freedom for security deserve neither of them.


Does "freedom for everyone" include girls and boys victimized by pedophiles? Where is the freedom in being raped by a pedophile?

You've posted similar ideas about freedom in another thread. You seem to confuse freedom with license.

Do you understand that when Jesus set us free, it was to free us FROM sin, and not free us TO sin?

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 3:13:59 AM   
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Do you have anything of substance to add on the original topic?



Do you watch TV at all? Do you read newspapers?
The clearest example right now is hatred of military, law enforcement and intel cervices. Yet, they are the only things that stand between liberty and slavery. Liberals hate military with every cell of their bodies but if military is not there liberals will be dead, on prayer rug facing Mecca of marching in green uniforms with Mao handbook in the pocket. Simple inability to come to this conclusion can only be explained by mental illness.

If you see somebody punching holes in lifeboat in the middle of an ocean with sharks circling below what will you say? "Are you out of your mind"? How is what liberals do any different?
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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 7:17:50 AM   
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What about the ideal of freedom for everyone, has that been taken out of your vocabulary too?????


Freedom? Did you read the article, the cases that is specifically called to light involved an illegal alien that had killed 3 people execution style after having been indicted on 31 counts of child rape, the fact that people can peak into a dressing room as long as they don't use cameras, and a man that would stand and look up the skirts of women. If that is your idea of freedom you need professional help. What about the rights and lives of those the actions are directed towards.

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The judgment you exercise on others might in due time be exercised on you so be prepared. Conformity for you seems more like the goal you seek rather than freedom. Security from anything that might just make you think harder than 1+1=2. Well for those who want to give up freedom for security deserve neither of them.


I fully expect to be judged by the same measure that i judge perverts.

What freedom do we give up when we protect children from rape and women from those who would spy on them at their most intimate moments? I want a direct answer to that question, no side stepping or accusing of being unchristian or anything else like that, just tell me what freedom would be lost if we prevent perverts from raping children and looking up womens skirts or spying on them in the dressing room.
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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 7:57:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EverLearning

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ORIGINAL: 45degreeN
What about the ideal of freedom for everyone, has that been taken out of your vocabulary too?????


Freedom? Did you read the article, the cases that is specifically called to light involved an illegal alien that had killed 3 people execution style after having been indicted on 31 counts of child rape, the fact that people can peak into a dressing room as long as they don't use cameras, and a man that would stand and look up the skirts of women. If that is your idea of freedom you need professional help. What about the rights and lives of those the actions are directed towards.

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The judgment you exercise on others might in due time be exercised on you so be prepared. Conformity for you seems more like the goal you seek rather than freedom. Security from anything that might just make you think harder than 1+1=2. Well for those who want to give up freedom for security deserve neither of them.


I fully expect to be judged by the same measure that i judge perverts.

What freedom do we give up when we protect children from rape and women from those who would spy on them at their most intimate moments? I want a direct answer to that question, no side stepping or accusing of being unchristian or anything else like that, just tell me what freedom would be lost if we prevent perverts from raping children and looking up womens skirts or spying on them in the dressing room.


I agree. I draw the line when that freedom involves ME and MY body on display. To say we are infringing on the freedom of a man that wants to look up womans' skirts or peep through holes in the wall is pretty crazy. If I was one of those women, I know I would feel as if I were violated, to find out some man was doing that and there was nothing the police could do about it because no laws were being broken.

Sure, we could say this behavior is harmless and isn't hurting anyone, but often times this type of behavior escalates as the man grows bolder. I mean, how many times have we heard about a man being caught for "indecent exposure" for dropping his pants and flashing people, and then when it happens again he then tries to confront some young girl or woman walking by? I can think of a few where that has happened in the area I live in.

Okay, so the women usually get away unscathed and unharmed, but the sense of violation that must occur...we can't begin to comprehend the scar something like that leaves behind. I think the same thing applies to the situation the article gives. Drilled holes and someone looking up womens' skirts. To condone such behavior just makes the perpetrator believe that it's okay and who knows what they'll try next as they become bolder.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 8:36:12 AM   
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I am no fan of liberalism. I will always percieve liberalism as satanic.

However, there is the secular liberal...and there is the christian liberal. They have some common ground but are wholly different in others.

A liberal christian may not want abortion outlawed but they do not want asny babies aborted. I am not sure any secular liberal cares about aborted babies. They put their "freedom" over murder.

Liberal christians tend to rely on government for charity or at least see little wrong with government charity. They tend to care a lot for the downtrodden and give of their time. Secular liberals view government charity as a means to an end and a solution to the "Great Unwashed" their superiority demands they take care of.

Without God, all are perverts...and the line ain't too clear with those who are with God either. We are messed up weird people, no doubt....

but I don't see liberals, or conservatives being that much different.

I DO see HUGE differences in the phillosphies.

So, to me, the title is misleading....Maybe it should be...

Why Liberalism Always Protects Perverts.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 8:55:46 AM   
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Or Mister Peeping Thomas, Gentleman Of Leisure ?

How about Ted Haggard?

And Larry Craig.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 9:29:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SteveSund

Do you have anything of substance to add on the original topic?



Do you watch TV at all? Do you read newspapers?
The clearest example right now is hatred of military, law enforcement and intel cervices. Yet, they are the only things that stand between liberty and slavery. Liberals hate military with every cell of their bodies but if military is not there liberals will be dead, on prayer rug facing Mecca of marching in green uniforms with Mao handbook in the pocket. Simple inability to come to this conclusion can only be explained by mental illness.

If you see somebody punching holes in lifeboat in the middle of an ocean with sharks circling below what will you say? "Are you out of your mind"? How is what liberals do any different?


Our local paper is pretty lousy, so I don't read it very often. As for TV, I probably watch too much. Again, I don't see you adding to the OP. I'd have to look, as I don't even remember what the OP was. Maybe you could start a thread on liberals.

As I said, I don't consider myself a liberal, though I agree with some of them on some issues. My question to you is do you actually know any liberals? Have you had an in depth discussion with one? I'll be honest, most of the liberals I know are pretty moderate. FWIW, none of them hate the military. Several are vets or are currently serving. Several are in law enforcement, so there is no hatred there either.

I suppose I am guilty of what I have complained about, so I'll comment on the original article. I agree with what the author says in regards to the illegal aliens. I disagree with what he says on the proposed law. That law is way to vague. The courts are already stressed to the limit. I don't mind a law that is specific enough to stop people from peeping where people have a reasonable expectation of privacy, but his law would criminalize looking at a clothed woman's 'sexual parts.' While this is not behavior to be encouraged, do we really want these kinds of cases in the court? Since it doesn't define what casual or cursory is, it could include almost any kind of look that lasted more than a few seconds. Frankly, I would think that plaintiff's attorneys would be happy about this law. It opens up a huge area of litigation.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 9:52:38 AM   
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I'll be honest, most of the liberals I know are pretty moderate. FWIW, none of them hate the military. Several are vets or are currently serving. Several are in law enforcement, so there is no hatred there either.


No offense to you, Steve, but I chuckled when I read this. I couldn't help but wonder which is it? Liberal or moderate? Do these people you know call themselves liberal? I guess I'm wondering how they were deemed liberal considering the description you've given of them.

By the way, I have always disliked using the terms liberal and conservative to describe someone's worldview. What do they really mean? Your comment is a classic example that they're still pretty nebulous terms.

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RE: Why Liberals Always Protect Perverts - 8/28/2007 10:18:58 AM   
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Rhetoric seeks to convince others by any method possible ignoring truth statements and typically using emotive words that tend to take people away from their logical arguments and into emotional states weakening their other arguments.

Words like 'pervert', and 'Nazi' are used not so much to describe some person as to throw the argument into this emotional maelstrom and some people use 'Liberal' in the same way. Not as a means to communicate truth but to affect the opposing debater (see ad hominem attacks). Word such as these are thrown at the opponent hoping to get them off track in their logical arguments and into an "mud slinging contest".

As an aside: Karl Rove was an expert at doing this which is what enabled Bush to become president.
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