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I'm confused about the god thing - 8/16/2009 1:37:47 AM
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AlertOne
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I'm 21 today, my family used to go to church every Sunday when I was a young child. I don't remember anything from church. I know that I went to a Christian church. I don't even own a bible nor have I been to church in 16 years. I know hardly anything about god. I am worried on what I read about god because I'm worried its another religion so I just don't read the literature at all. I guess I'm Christian, although I don't know really what that means. Any advice for a god newbie? I don't even know the difference between god and Jesus but I'm eager to learn!
1) How do you decide what denomination you want to be?
2) What type of bible do I need to buy?
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/16/2009 2:24:41 AM
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Ephesians4_32
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quote:
ORIGINAL: AlertOne
I'm 21 today, my family used to go to church every Sunday when I was a young child. I don't remember anything from church. I know that I went to a Christian church. I don't even own a bible nor have I been to church in 16 years. I know hardly anything about god. I am worried on what I read about god because I'm worried its another religion so I just don't read the literature at all. I guess I'm Christian, although I don't know really what that means. Any advice for a god newbie? I don't even know the difference between god and Jesus but I'm eager to learn!
1) How do you decide what denomination you want to be?
2) What type of bible do I need to buy?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
I prefer The King James Version because I was given one at age nine(even though my parents weren't Christians). But I recommend NIV as that is what most people like who didn't grow up on King James. NIV is easy to read.
God is Triune. God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are one God. This becomes evident as you study the Bible; it may seem confusing at first. Any church that doesn't teach the Trinity is way off base.
A Christian is a person who understands that he is helpless to save himself and must rely on what Christ has done for him in order to be saved. He falls in love with God's word and wants to do God's will. He is sorry for his sins. Start by reading the book of John.
John 3(King James Version)
1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
22After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
24For John was not yet cast into prison.
25Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.
26And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.
27John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
28Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.
29He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
30He must increase, but I must decrease.
31He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
32And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
33He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
I'll try to check in again soon.
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/16/2009 4:41:53 AM
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Not-Home-Yet
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AlertOne
All you have to is believe with all your heart that Jesus died on the cross for you. You may have learned this when you were little. I know I did for just like you I had not gone to church not since I was a little girl. Had not touch or seen a bible for years.
All I could remember was going to sunday school and that song we use to sing. Jesus love me I know it had been a very long time since I had even heard that song and yet after my mother died it keep come into my head.
I could not stop thinking about this song and it was through my mothers prayers and that song I come back to Jesus and gave my lift to Him.
John 3:16 tell us:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
This means God allowed his Son Jesus to be crucified on the cross so you and I could be saved.
When Jesus died on earth, he took all our sins with him. He accepted our punishment, so we wouldn't have to suffer.
This show us just how much God love us that he would come down and walk among men just so He could died and save us. AlertOne I just want you to know Juses died for all of us and no matter want we have done in our lifes or how bad we have been, He loves us and will take us Just how we are.
We don't have to do anything but believe......... Love Jane
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/16/2009 4:51:20 PM
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Any(most)Bible believing will welcome you into their assembly. The ABC's of this Faith
Admit-“[Jesus] proved He had a valid claim [to His Deity] but His own rejected His claim yet as many as receives His message; to them he claimed the right to become redeemed of God and appropriate His Name.“ John 1:11,12
Believe-“[you can be] freed from the arrogance that enslaves you [and] come into His obedience resulting in purification and Eternal Life. For the wages of sin is death but the free gift of is Eternal Life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 3:22,23
Confess-“[His message] is near you, in your mouth and in your heart"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching that if you confess [obedience to] Jesus as Lord with your mouth and you will be saved. For with the heart a person believes resulting in righteousness and with his mouth he confesses resulting in [obedience].” Romans 10:8-10
...regardless of 'denomination'; Calvinist, Wesleyan, Anabaptist or orthodox.
Regarding a personal Bible: choose the version that you will read and obey. My preference for study/reading is NASB but KJV, NIV, the Message even the Living Bible will be valuable when one reads and follows it's teaching.
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of His very being[that]sustains all things...'-Hebrews 1:3-
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/16/2009 10:35:21 PM
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Chrio
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Greetings in Jesus
Thank you Jane!
WELCOME AlertOne! I pray you enjoy and experience the Love of God in these forums.
I recommend you set aside about 90 minutes and visit a local Christian Book Store. Get a King James translation(KJV), New International translation (NIV) an English Standard translation (ESV) and either the New Living Translation (NLT) or New American Standard Bible (NASB) and read the same passages in each translation to find which has the most confort and readability for you.
You can also ask one of the store's staff to direct you to the "Parallel Bibles". These have from 2 to 4 different translations in the one volume. So you can read from 4 different translations 'side-by-side' and do a comparison that way. Ask God to lead you to the translation He wants for you and He will. God promises that if we diligently seek Him, we will find Him. This is my prayer for you.
Live Freely, Love Deeply, Laugh Loudly
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/17/2009 1:48:24 AM
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mikeal289
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hi alert one.its great that you are wanting to know about God and your salvation,thats the Holy Spirit working on you. i believe there is only one bible that glorifies God the father ,JesusChrist,and the HolySpirit and that is the king james bible. icant explain in this small chat why but there is a big difference. as far as a denomination to be, just beleive in christ and what he did not just for you but for all the world on the cross, and be a christian.find a church that preaches and teaches the Word of God.grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord jesus christ. God bless,and we are praying for you.
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/17/2009 9:15:07 PM
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Moving this from The Bible to General Faith.
Please discuss whether the King James Version is the only Bible that glorifies God in THIS THREAD.
Thanks!
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/18/2009 4:31:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: Not-Home-Yet
John 3:16 tell us:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
"AlertOne" why be confused!? Let`s focus on the basics. We`re all sinners, at least I am. Rom.3:23 tells us "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." Because we`re all sinners we`re all sentenced to a spiritual eternal death. So unless Someone else pays that debt of death for me and rescues me I will be eternally lost in eternal hell. Now that`s what the above verse from John 3:16 tells us. God the Father sent God the Son "Jesus" to earth to take on human flesh so He as the God-Man could pay our debt. Jesus came to die on the cross for our sin, so now as John 3:16 states, "that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Now believing is only the beginning. From there on obedience to the teachings of Jesus found in the Bible will give you not another religion, but a personal one on one relationship with your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. This is possible because this same Jesus who died for you is also resurrected and is in heaven today and very much alive. This is a historical fact as we have witnesses in the Bible that saw Jesus alive and can testify to the fact that everything you`ll read about Him in the Bible is true.  Doesn`t that sound exciting? So why not buy a good Bible that`s easily readable. Then join us in reading and believing it. You`ll soon realize you`ve found more then just a religion.  You`ve discovered the Way, the Truth and the Life, JESUS.
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/18/2009 7:01:57 PM
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Crystal4287
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I use a King James Version, and New Living Translation. i use the New Living Translation for studying its a teen study bible I'm only 25. So anyways, I was raised in and out of church but still have yet to fully understand King James Version Bibles.
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/20/2009 8:59:09 AM
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You have to put your faith in Christ for your salvation - like someone earlier said, you have to believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, that he rose again and is coming back someday for His church. It's not the Baptist church, the Catholic church or any other denomination that He will return for but for true believers from every denomination. However, it is a little more than simply believing Christ died for you - we don't work our way into heaven, but we have to do our part once we make Jesus Lord and Master of our lives. We have to repent, turn away from sin and ask forgiveness. It's not a one-time process because we face temptations daily. We cannot continue in sin with the attitude "That's OK, its covered..." God wants us to be transformed. You cannot be transformed if you stay where you are now. We need to grow spiritually, to seek His help to turn from sin and keep the devil off our backs. We cannot do it alone, and we won't - the Holy Spirit will help us. On those occasions when we sin, when we stumble (and we all do) we have an advocate in Jesus Christ who intercedes for us. We won't be perfect until the day we cross over into eternity, but with His help and the help of other brothers and sisters in Christ we can strive for perfection, we can change our attitudes toward sinful things. It may take time to rid yourself of some former things, but don't give up.
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RE: I'm confused about the god thing - 8/20/2009 11:34:57 AM
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Happy birthday, AlertOne!
We're all like the little kid who made a toy boat, lost it, and then found it in a toy store window and bought it back. God made us (and everything else), we turned our backs on God's moral perfection (sin is an archery term that means we missed the bullseye) which demands death to pay for, and since God didn't want us to die but live with Him, He lowered Himself to become a man and die in our place to pay for all.
Only someone who loves you would do that.
Jesus' death and resurrection were witnessed by hundreds of people, many who went on to die rather than recant their story (that holds up in a court of law as evidence, as dying people have nothing to gain by lying). Everyone dies, but who else rose from the dead, and the picture of health at that?
We decided to become Presbyterians (PCA) because of their emphasis on Bible scholarship and living it, and we use the New King James Version. But there are many other good translations, like the New International Version, and I like the New American Standard Bible.
I hope this helps you. I'm glad you're here!
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Read it. Eat it. Dwell in it. Rightly divide it. Live it.
Laugh, dance, praise your God, and go read some more. And God bless you.
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